Date: 17 Sep 1996 From: HC11 Erik Cheever To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Good, inexpensive, 6811 C compiler for Macintosh Folks, I was wondering if there was a good, not too expensive, C compiler that runs on Macintosh computers. I know small-C is available for free, but I've not heard good things about it. Any suggestions? -Erik Erik Cheever Swarthmore College Date: 17 Sep 1996 From: Craig Keithley To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Good, inexpensive, 6811 C compiler for Macintosh Eric Cheever wrote: >Folks, > I was wondering if there was a good, not too expensive, C compiler >that runs on Macintosh computers. I know small-C is available for free, >but I've not heard good things about it. Any suggestions? Internal to Apple I've been pushing for a subset of our development environment (MPW) to be available for use with shareware tools (but MPW would _not_ be shareware), and for MPW to be available for bundling with cross platform development tools. This subset would consist of the MPW Shell (Editor) and some number of tools (source code data base, 'grep' like tool, make, etc.). It would not include the libraries and header files needed to write Mac applications. If you want to write Mac applications, you can either buy CodeWarrior or the full MPW tool suite (full MPW = $199.95) I haven't made much progress in getting permission to put a stripped down form of MPW on ftp or web sites for use with shareware tools. I'm finding it difficult to convey the fact that real software developers occassionally use shareware tools. And that providing an environment like MPW would be helpful. To all those MS-DOS/PC centric folks out there, MPW is a command line oriented environment. Porting MS-DOS (or UNIX) tools to MPW is tremendously easy, just so long as you don't use spawnvp (or varients). Which reminds me, I've taken far to long to wrapup AS12 for MPW. It's done, I just need to pass it on to the fellow who did the MS-DOS port. When this gets released to the net, you'll see that the code is exactly the same between MS-DOS and MPW, except for a couple of lines to spin the Mac cursor and change the output file type/creator to TEXT/MPS. And I would be more than glad to help others port MS-DOSish tools to MPW. The point to all this is that if someone would like to create commercial tools that need MPW, I can probably help (that is, try to help...) you get a license to distribute a stripped down version of MPW with your product. And if there are MS-DOS commercial tools that you'd like to see on the Mac, tell the makers that MPW is (probably) available for licensing and that making their tools work under MPW is usually easy. And for all those folks who'd like to see Apple allow a stripped down form of MPW to be included with shareware tools, please write me. And I'll need your permission to forward your email, or abbreviated version of it, to our marketing folks (in an effort to get them to see the light). Oh, and in response to the question: I believe that Introl sells an HC11 C compiler for the Mac. And I think it includes a stripped down version of MPW ;-) Thanks, Craig -- Craig Keithley Cross Platform Software Engineer Apple Computer, Inc. Date: 17 Sep 1996 From: William L. Brown Jr. To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Good, inexpensive, 6811 C compiler for Macintosh I've had fairly good luck running icc11 under softPC as well as SoftWindows. I have an older version of icc11 without the Windoze interface, so I run it under dos in either case. One runs into some issues with converting the s9 files between dos and Mac files. Some of the Mac programs for downloading get unhappy if the LF characters are on the ends of each line. Also, icc11 gets unhappy if you've edited the source files with a Mac program which doesn't put in the LF characters. I use BBEdit Lite which will write the files either way. -bill Concord, CA > Folks, > I was wondering if there was a good, not too expensive, C compiler > that runs on Macintosh computers. I know small-C is available for free, > but I've not heard good things about it. Any suggestions? > > > -Erik > > Erik Cheever Swarthmore College Date: 17 Sep 1996 From: Frank Henriquez To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Good, inexpensive, 6811 C compiler for Macintosh >Folks, > I was wondering if there was a good, not too expensive, C compiler >that runs on Macintosh computers. I know small-C is available for free, >but I've not heard good things about it. Any suggestions? Eric: I'm assuming that you're looking for a 68HC11 C compiler... There's interactive-c for the Mac. It's at: What I'd like to see is a plug-in 68HC11 C compiler for Codewarrior! I don't care for MPW. Frank -- Frank Henriquez UCLA Astronomy Department